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IITs, NITs may exempt PhD aspirants from GATE
25 Oct 2012

In a bid to even out the ever widening research gap between India and China, the government is considering exempting PhD aspirants from the Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering (GATE). The test is a national gateway for pursuing research at the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and other central science and engineering institutions. Most PhD programmes at the IITs, National Institutes of Technology (NITs) and other central science schools currently consider GATE scores.

The Standing Committee of the IIT Council (SCIC) – an executive sub-group of the apex decision making body of the IITs -- will discuss the plan at a key meet on November 5 at IIT Bombay. The meet will focus on strategies to ramp up the country’s science research.

This proposal among a set of recommendations will be reviewed at the meeting. The recommendations have been made by a panel headed by former atomic energy czar Anil Kakodkar. The Kakodkar panel has set a target of increasing India’s annual science and engineering PhD output from about 9000 at present to 40,000 by 2025. The IITs alone contribute about 1000 of the current PhDs each year. China already produces about 50,000 PhDs in science and engineering each year, reported Hindustan Times.

China and India were almost at par in quantity of peer-reviewed science research at the start of the millennium, but the former has leapfrogged almost four fold ahead over the past 12 years. Globally, China today provides almost 12% of the world’s research publications in science and engineering, while Indian research makes up just over 3%.

The US share in world research has declined sharply from the 1980s but it still has 30% of the world’s science and engineering research.

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Dheeraj kumar singh
17 Nov 2012

I thnk it shud be the betr criteria for d iits n various nits xam dat stdnts cud nt select, wud qualify d self xam for same n developd d research field ön d basis of deir hard makin .for the most welcmd studnts pasd d gate xam they shud be liable for selectin beyond iit n nits as per their rankin basis.
On the contary. It wil be the betr optn to grow the human research field.
Only pbm z dat financialy weak stdnts hav to fil the xam form both
n whether dey l fil or nt depends on dem

S Kumar
11 Nov 2012

Removing the GATE qualifying for PhD admission is not a good move. Earlier also whenever, Ph D was allowed under self-financing scheme, it was only used as a tool for giving admission to wards of some influential persons or relatives. If someone is really interested in doing PhD, he/she must be able to qualify at least one entrance exam such as GATE/UGC-CSIR test etc. What the government can do is to provide for more seats through these tests. Another point is that IITs who share a big chunk of quality PhD's have reached a saturation point in terms of engagement of their manpower. The number of quality PhD's can be improved by providing more resources to NITs, and universities.

Prof.N.R.DAVE
31 Oct 2012

Good decision. In any case, GATE has no tools to examine research aptitude.
In fact, each University should design its own system of evaluating research potential of candidates

Dr. Yogendra Mishra
30 Oct 2012

Relaxing NET/GATE will not help to improve the quality. Most important requirement is to overall improve the faculty levels in general. IITs, NITs, central universities and few others are more or less OK, but still in some colleges faculties do ph d to get promotions or they supervise Ph. D. students not from their intuition, but only because of the criteria imposed by UGC for promotions. I think faculty improvement should be first requirement.

Suresh.P
30 Oct 2012

In India most of the people doing Ph.D, but after getting degree they are not continuing the research work. lot of people getting degree only for getting high salary not for country development. this attitude should change

Priya
29 Oct 2012

As long as we run our system in a rubbish manner, kindly dont think in dream also to be ahead of China. Say for example, Companies in India higher B.Tech Electronics from IIT to look analytics in banks, or manage supply chain or run a Insurance policy. Where does he or she using his Electronics background. After going through one or two finance book he is able to get a job in these banks.
Why not make a strict norm that to no Bank can higher a guy unless he is having a one year long training certificate from some reputed agencies like a body meant for running such certification programs.
Ideally, we are allowing our total talent pools to go waste due to faulty hiring and campus placement type policies. I know it is minimum four hour interview or discussion needed to convince a company fellow for once suitability in US but in our campus interview process 10 minute is too much for them to hire a guy.
All these companies are bringing their SOP( standard operating procedure) from abroad and our people are paid 50 to 60 thousand Rs to work on these with due dedication and sincerity. After 5 years of such working they are unfit to do any hard work and lower talented guy engaged in other work like teaching, R and D is they are consistently doing better but these companies do not have any challenging problems so they are selling junk or good products without any engagement of our guys in any innovative work.
Public sector is doing routine job so where is challenging issues. DRDO and ISRO and BARC etc are counting grades and increments and promotion than any innovative products. They are not to be blamed because we lack credible policy to reward them or fire them with a well defines time bound mission.
Universities and IIts are engaged in extension work and and extremely narrow guys are doing some incredible thing but they are unnoticed and unrewarded.
Bhatanagar and other awards are mostly managed through lobbying and fellowships are awarded through connections. So tell me where is question of honoring merit and hard work arise in our system. Only 10% self governed guys are there who are keeping our flag flying in all dimensions other we are well known as lethargic and smart brigade who are well known talking big but doing nothing.

DR. SATYA SHEEL
29 Oct 2012

If its a question of producing more Ph.D.s, why not remove the external / foreign examiner's requirement ? or have only internal evaluation!
Quantity at what cost, is the crucial to think over.

Instead, the committee should have recommended - better facilities, focus on industry based problems, developing research culture and appropriate incentives to have more meaningful research!
Why can't the committees have educationists or sincere professionals on them !!

Professor Venkata Raghotham
29 Oct 2012

The relaxation of standards by dropping the GATE requirement will not help as it will only make for higher enrollment figure and there will be a deterioration of quality. Rather than diluting the entry requirement, it would be wiser to improve the quality of education so that more students are able to get through the GATE. Unfortunately entrance examinations are becoming filters rather than enablers for higher education. While the number of Ph D degrees produced by a country may be an indicator of the educational levels attained by that country, we must also keep in mind the quality.

Jaspal Singh Aujla
29 Oct 2012

A person who could not clear GATE, what he/she will do in Ph.D. The numder of advertisement in news papers are increasing day after day offering Ph.D degrees. This will only increase frauds. There is hardly any effort is done to appreciate the quality.

Prof. Nizam U. Khan
29 Oct 2012

A large number of talented scientific manpower is engaged in teaching in private colleges with no research facilities. The government should provide more funds to Universities and Institutions for research. UGC and CSIR should directly select Ph. D.'s as Scientists or FELLOWS and place them in good laboratories. The bugdetry allocation for research must be increased.

Prof T.K.Raja
29 Oct 2012

It is not surprising that China is ahead of India in research out in terms of research publications and the number of PhDs produced. China's investment in research and development is about 10% of the GDP where is in India it is about 2% only. Our manufacturing industries are wiped out by the economic liberalization of 1991 by late PV Narasimha Rao and Dr Manmohan Singh. China is a Socialist country with all means of production owned by the State. In India all means of production is owned by Tatas, Birlas, Ambanis and Singhanis.
Socialism has remained a political ideology of the rich in India since the days of post-independence which helped the unhindered development of monopoly capitalism of the rich. Now all levels of education are commercialized and controlled by the rich. In this circumstance we cannot expect the development of scientific research equal to China.

Dr NAVNEET DABRA
29 Oct 2012

The proposed decision definitly encourage the enrollments of Basic Sciences and Engineering students in PhD's. But there is a need to clearify the faculty norms in the various insititutes, As there is alot of emguity for the faculty norms of the candidates from Physics/Chemistry/Maths background. It is not clear whether the PhD in Physics/Chemistry/Maths are elgible for the entry level post in the colleges and universities (for the post of assistant professor). The deciding committee is requested to look into the matter and please clarify the norms, which may increase the further enrollments in PhD.

Dharmendra Mani Varma
29 Oct 2012

The reason for no research work in India is not due to less PhD students but due to lack of government sharing in area of research most of the student who do M.tech realize that there is no option other then to join an MNC as govt don't have any job opportunities for M.tech that leads end of there urge to do more in that field as everyone would like to have safe future before doing some extra thing.

Second we lack an industry collaboration with institute for research if govt look forward to industry and try to make some innovation center that are in pace with market then that will motivate the students who want to do something new and great to do that.

Eliminating Gate will reduce the quality of PhD students as in present most of PhD enrollments are motivated promotion not by the thought of innovation
try to bring some industry experts to take some lecture in institute to motivate them